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THE MOSCOW NEWS N 16
BUSINESS
27.04.2007
KNIGHT FRANK: REAPING BENEFITS OF REAL ESTATE BOOM
By Dietwald Claus The Moscow News
In Russia's surging economy, the real estate market is one of
the hottest sectors: after growing 7 percent in 2006, it is
predicted to add another 7.5 percent in 2007. Not only is it hot,
it's pricey: Class A office space rents for $715 per square meter
per year - only London, Hong Kong, Tokyo and Paris are more
expensive. And a 180 square meter apartment in central Moscow can
set you back $15,000 per month.
Russia's real estate companies contribute a lot to the growing
economy, and one of the biggest names in the business is Knight
Frank. They arrived in Russia five years ago, when real estate was
just about to take off. Curious as to how they have been doing, I
set up an appointment with Kyrill Starodoubtsev, the managing
director and head of Knight Frank in Russia and the CIS.
Walking up Timura Frunze Street - just a few minutes from Park
Kultury metro station - one can sometimes see an eye-catching black
London cab with the Knight Frank logo. The office is not easy to
find - there is more than one House #11, so one has to pay
attention to the building designation 2-5.
Seen from the street, the building is not overly impressive,
but that's often the case in Moscow - never judge a building by the
outside. Once inside, the interior is modern, pleasant - and most
welcoming. Getting past the guards can be a hassle, but this time
they have my name on the visitor list, and I'm let in right away.
There are a number of big name international companies in
here, and I am tempted to take a peek at TNK-BP on the first floor
before going up to the fourth where the offices of Knight Frank are
located. The building is even nicer on the upper floors - big open
entrance areas, large windows, lots of light. When Kyrill and I
first meet, he says he'll give me half an hour. But in the end, we
talk for more than 70 minutes.
MN: How did you get started in the real estate business?
Starodoubtsev: I'm actually a geographer. There was no
business education when I went to university, so geography was
actually a good background. You learn a little bit of everything,
including economics. My first job was marketing, and I did very
well there. But then I thought real estate would be more exciting.
I saw that there was a lot of demand for high-quality service that
wasn't being met. So with two friends I founded a company called
PMC - Property Marketing Company.
MN: Tell me about your first real estate deal, how did that
happen?
Starodoubtsev: I knew a man who had just renovated an old
dormitory - a Khrushchevka. Fortunately, it was a brick building.
So he completely removed all the partitions from the inside, made
the facade nicer, and turned it into a basic office building.
Even by the standards of the time, it wasn't a very good
building, but I knew there was a lot of demand from foreign
companies. So I suggested him an exclusive deal and he agreed to it
- a bit surprising, maybe, but he knew me and knew I wouldn't let
him down. The funny thing is, I didn't know that many Russian
companies - through my marketing business I knew far more foreign
ones. So the landlord suddenly found his building filled with seven
top-class international blue-chip companies. That was a very nice
surprise for him and a really good start for our company.
MN: Why did you get involved with Knight Frank?
Starodoubtsev: Remember, none of us actually had a business
education; we had to learn everything ourselves. Eventually, we
needed more expertise and know-how, and so we began to look for an
experienced international partner. There were quite a few options,
but many of them were not compatible with what we needed.
Finally, we found the right partner in Knight Frank. They are
an equity partnership, which means that if you want to leave the
company, you sell your share. Our company was structured very
similarly. Most importantly, Knight Frank was able to make
decisions much quicker than many of the other potential partners we
were looking at. Eventually Knight Frank bought a 25 percent stake
in our company.
Within two years, we became one of the leading companies on
the Moscow real estate market. Three years ago we opened an office
in St. Petersburg, and just last September, we went to Kiev as
well. We are also planning to open eight or 10 branch offices in a
number of regional capitals.
Right now, we have six partners, with Knight Frank UK as the
corporate partner. Not long ago, we decided to have some of our top
managers acquire shares as well.
MN: How has your business changed over time?
Starodoubtsev: Originally, we did a lot in warehousing and
logistics - some people still think of us as a warehouse broker,
but that's not correct. We are among the leaders in every sector of
the market. Warehouses and logistics make up only 15 percent of our
business; the rest is residential, land, offices, retail and
leisure. Our customers are not just companies and developers, but
wealthy individuals as well. We do the whole range of support
services: tenant representation, property management, consulting,
valuation, investment support, marketing, research.
MN: In your kind of business, human resources are very
important. What's the human resource situation like for Knight
Frank?
Starodoubtsev: Unemployment rates in Moscow are currently
around 0.5 percent, but in the real estate sector, they are
practically at zero. It's not easy to find experienced people. To
find staff, we work with several recruitment agencies, and we do
some recruitment ourselves. Salaries in real estate are growing
dramatically, and we have to follow the trend.
We do all sorts of training for our employees. Some of it is
in-house, that is, in Moscow and London, but we also outsource some
of our training, starting from sales and presentation skills to
specialized professional courses.
MN: You are part of an international group - do you have any
expats working for you?
Starodoubtsev: Currently, we have 12 expats working for us,
that's 3 percent of our staff, but we are definitely looking for
more - there are lots of open positions for expats in our company.
MN: How did the crisis of 1998 affect your business?
Starodoubtsev: It was actually very good for us. After the
crash, a lot of companies moved from large Class A buildings to
smallish Class B offices. Since we did a lot of that moving, it
wasn't terrible for us at all. There was one bad thing, though: a
rather substantial check had been deposited in a bank for us just
before the crash, and when it arrived, the money had basically
disappeared. But, apart from that, we did well.
MN: The crash was good for you?
Starodoubtsev: Yes.
MN: Do you want another one?
Starodoubtsev: No, of course not! Afterwards, the market
wasn't doing so well - but at least for us, business didn't stop
altogether.
MN: Did you take advantage of the lower property prices after
that?
Starodoubtsev: No - that's not our side of the business. We
don't own property. It's just not something we do.
MN: When did business really pick up again for you?
Starodoubtsev: In 2000. It really went booming last year, I
think. It had been getting better previously, of course, but it's
last year that we have seen a radical change. There's a lot of
foreign investment coming in, and a lot of companies need office
space.
MN: What kind of companies?
Starodoubtsev: All kinds of companies. The big drivers right
now are Russian companies. Not just oil and gas, but pretty much
every sector of the economy - financial, natural resources,
business-to-business, retail, advertising. Demand is huge, and
there simply isn't enough space.
MN: There's lots of talk about the Moscow market being a
bubble - what do you think about that?
Starodoubtsev: Right now, I don't see residential market as a
bubble. Mortgages account for about 10 percent of all deals right
now, and banks finance at most 80-85 percent of the sale price.
Mortgages are going up, though, and I expect that in about five
years, 80 percent of all sales will be paid for by mortgages. Banks
may begin to give mortgages in the amount equal to the real value,
and that will drive prices up - and eventually create a bubble.
MN: What advice would you give to a foreigner interested in
doing business in Russia? What risks are there?
Starodoubtsev: Institutional investors who have to be on the
safe side should go for office, retail, and industrial properties.
Private investors who are willing to take some risks should
probably go to the south of Russia, like the Sochi area. But real
estate in most parts of Russia is probably a good bet right now.
The risks in Russia are no different from those in most other
countries. Make sure you get legal advice for everything, that you
understand the rules and regulations. There is no threat to private
property.
MN: Speaking about personal matters, tell me a little about
yourself. Do you have family?
Starodoubtsev: I do - and I have a little baby boy. He just
celebrated his birthday - his first month!
MN: Congratulations!
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